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Watching the looting and buildings burning there tonight, and remembering what parts of Detroit still looked like years later when I visited there...

The City is in a state of emergency. Several have been shot. Police vehicles have been burned. The firemen can't fight the fires in the buildings because the rioters are cutting the fire hoses. The Mayor has ordered a curfew for Tuesday night, and the Governor is calling in the National Guard, but the police so far have only used pepper shot so I'm wondering what the Guard will be able to do...
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It's watching scenes like that makes me glad I'm retired. I'm sorry, but if I was there working and saw them cutting the fire hoses like that and the attitudes those people display, I would have turned in my equipment and gone home. When the people that live there, and YES those are the people that live there, act like that, regardless of the "reasons" they deserves NO help or protection. CVS should pull out of that neighborhood and NEVER return. The city, state and federal government should allocate ZERO dollars to rebuild anything there, just as they should do NOTHING to rebuild Ferguson, Mo.
I'm sorry, but that is such a thing as demonstrations and civil disorder, but what we saw in Ferguson and what happened last night in Baltimore was nothing but less than Criminal activity. These were not protestors nor demonstrators, they were CRIMINALS, both the ones that caused the damage and the ones that watched it and cheered them on, or did nothing to stoip them.
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The curfew worked last night and I don't know if you guys watched, but it sure was tense going there for awhile.
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No, I didn't watch it and I won't! I heard on a news report that some of the elected officials apologized to the CRIMINALS for calling them thugs. If that don't beat all!!!
"I'm sorry for calling you the animals that you ARE as you wantonly rape and pillage the city you call home"....
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Strange world we live in these days, Retired. The video of the mom that found her 16 year old son with a brick in his hand ready to throw it at the police and slapped him with an open hand a few times while telling him what she thought of his actions as she was taking him home was great. I don't care what anyone says, I say it's too bad more of these thugs don't have moms like that. Of course, today the so-called "experts" are coming out of the woodwork claiming what she did was an example of bad parenting. I disagree. I don't believe in police brutality and I know there's some bad apples that needs to be weeded out, but I think sparing little Johnny's and Jane's feelings instead of punishing them for bad behavior, and not teaching them respect for themselves and others is what's getting them killed and why we have these problems in the first place.

Just as there's a difference in police brutality and doing their job, there's a difference in child abuse and discipline. Even the bible says spare the rod and spoil the child.

I was raised in a different era where parents were looked down on if they didn't spank their child and make them mind, and I am better for it. I learned to respect not only my parents and elders, but I also learned there were consequences to my actions. They can blame these thugs actions on poverty, poor educations, environment or whatever, but if kids are not taught respect and responsibility for their actions we are going to need a lot more jails, prisons and policemen.

Petting little Johnny because you are afraid you will hurt his feelings instead of being a parent and teaching him there's bad consequences for bad behavior, but making sure his right to own and carry a gun is protected is not going to work. It's going to get him killed, one way or another.

Why do we listen to the "experts" and swing from one extreme to another? When all we need to do is to use a little common sense.
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They 6 policemen are being charged.


Maryland Attorney: Gray’s arrest was illegal, death a homicide

BALTIMORE (MEDIA GENERAL) – Six officers are being charged in the death of Freddie Gray. Charges include second degree murder, manslaughter and assault. A warrant has been issued for the officers’ arrests.

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This prosecutor is grand standing. Seriously, talking about overcharging, Murder 2nd? How in the world is she going to PROVE that any of these officers intended for this person to die? She refused to present this to a grand jury because she knew that she would never get that kind of an indictment from one.
I'm NOT defending the cops actions, they were WRONG and they deserve to be charged, but they deserve to be charged with the crimes that they actually committed. I heard the one defense attorney calling this a bunch of BS and he is 100% correct. I am sure that the defense will demand either a grand jury hearing or a probable cause hearing, they are entitled to whichever they request, and when they do and these charges are thrown out, she is gonna have a lot of explaining to do.
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Here's an explanation on the exact charges of each officer and how the charges relate to Maryland law.

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That's really a stretch trying to make the murder charge fit the situation, and the manslaughter by vehicle is completely out of context of the law.
Seriously, does she think she can convince a jury that the driver intended to kill him?
Prosecutors by nature are glory hounds and this one has her eyes on higher office.
During my career I made thousands of arrest, and I can't begin to count the number of time that I charge somebody with a misdemeanor, only to have the prosecutor recharge it as a felony. And NONE of those cases ever resulted in felony convictions. They usually wound up with a plea deal or found guilty of what I originally charged them with.

In this case, I can see Misconduct, I can see Assault, if they can show that specific officers personally caused injuries, I can see Involuntary Manslaughter through criminal negligence and I can see Unlawful imprisonment charges for the original arresting officers, not all of them.
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Killings Resulting from a Depraved Indifference to Human Life The third main type of second degree murder occurs when a victim dies as a result of the perpetrators depraved indifference to human life. Depraved indifference to human life can mean different things in different jurisdictions, but in general it signifies that the perpetrator had an utter disregard for the potential damage to human life that their actions could cause. - See more at: [sign in to see URL]#[sign in to see URL]


What about this? Regardless of whether they meant to kill him or not (and I think that would be a stretch) the most disturbing thing to me is that although he was obviously getting in worse shape medically as the ride progressed, and there were multiple stops along the way, they didn't even try to get medical help for him until after they got to the station. As we learn more of story we are seeing he was obviously in respiratory arrest(heart attack) for at least part of the ride. Heck, at one time the female Sgt. spoke to him and he was unresponsive, and she ignored it. To me that shows blatant disregard for human life by her and every one of them that had contact with him during that ride and did nothing to get medical help for him.

I can understand a cop getting burned out and lord knows they have a tough job dealing with criminals day after day, but cop or not most of us would have more concern for an animal than what they showed for this guy. You would think out of the 6 of them at least one or two of them would have showed a little sense, if not concern for someone in that condition.
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